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Interestingly enough, although the stress from nominative plural to genitive plural does not change, both words (сторона and война) have a change of stress between singular and plural. Is it possible that the source KCd refers to is actually referring to stress changes between the singular and plural forms of the word? I suppose it is possible, but doubtful. I get the impression КСd may actually be quoting from it directly. The source isn't mentioned, so I can't try to find a copy online. (Even if it exists, it could very well be in Russian, not a bad thing, but my Russian is not nearly good enough for accurate interpretation of Russian grammar books.) I'll ask about it after posting this.

All speculations aside, allow me to move on to my third and final bullet of knowledge on this topic:
Note how the stress from genitive singular to nominative plural changes, which is what KCd is referring to.

Interestingly enough, although the stress from nominative plural to genitive plural does not change, both words (сторона and война) have a change of stress between singular and plural. Is it possible that the source KCd refers to is actually referring to stress changes between the singular and plural forms of the word? I suppose it is possible, but doubtful. I get the impression КСd may actually be quoting from it directly. The source isn't mentioned, so I can't try to find a copy online. (Even if it exists, it could very well be in Russian, not a bad thing, but my Russian is not nearly good enough for accurate interpretation of Russian grammar books.) I'll ask about it after posting this.

All speculations aside, allow me to move on to my third and final bullet of knowledge on this topic:


Note how the stress from genitive singular to nominative plural changes, which is what KCd is referring to.

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  1. This comes from Quassnoi's answer. A large part of it was in Russian, and, after using Google Translate, I realized that it doesn't actually address my question except for one thing and that is what was said in reference to a rule he was citing from a book by Dietmar Rosenthal titled, Справочник по правописанию и литературной правке для работников печатиСправочник по правописанию и литературной правке для работников печати. In reference to the rule referenced from the book, Quassnoi writes:
  1. This comes from Quassnoi's answer. A large part of it was in Russian, and, after using Google Translate, I realized that it doesn't actually address my question except for one thing and that is what was said in reference to a rule he was citing from a book by Dietmar Rosenthal titled, Справочник по правописанию и литературной правке для работников печати. In reference to the rule referenced from the book, Quassnoi writes:
  1. This comes from Quassnoi's answer. A large part of it was in Russian, and, after using Google Translate, I realized that it doesn't actually address my question except for one thing and that is what was said in reference to a rule he was citing from a book by Dietmar Rosenthal titled, Справочник по правописанию и литературной правке для работников печати. In reference to the rule referenced from the book, Quassnoi writes:
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  1. The general rules laid out at the top of the post that starts my discussion thread here (Can anyone clear up ...?) should suffice in most situations. How do I know that? I don't. All I can tell you is that I've seen that rule in a pretty reputable Russian textbook and have seen several examples of where that rule is applied. Those that don't follow those rules appear to be the exception rather than the rule, but I haven't queried the entire Russian lexicon or even a scientifically measured portion of it (e.g., the first 100 most common Russian adjectives and nouns and all the many permutations of how they could combine with "2," "3," and "4"). It could be done, but it would take me a lot of time and I suspect that I would discover what the Russian textbook ТРОЙКА has already provided me with its rule.

  2. In the thread titled, "How to decline adjectives ..." (the one I mention earlier in this answer), the author of it (KCd) refers to the number-adjective-noun rules for feminine nouns. To refresh, it is this:

Interestingly enough, although the stress from nominative plural to genitive plural does not change, both words (сторона and война) have a change of stress between singular and plural. Is it possible that the source KCd refers to is actually referring to stress changes between the singular and plural forms of the word? I suppose it is possible, but doubtful. I get the impression КСd ismay actually be quoting from it directly. The source isn't mentioned, so I can't try to find a copy online. (Even if it exists, it could very well be in Russian, not a bad thing, but my Russian is not nearly good enough for accurate interpretation of Russian grammar books.) I'll ask about it after posting this.

  1. The general rules laid out at the top of the post that starts my discussion thread here should suffice in most situations. How do I know that? I don't. All I can tell you is that I've seen that rule in a pretty reputable Russian textbook and have seen several examples of where that rule is applied. Those that don't follow those rules appear to be the exception rather than the rule, but I haven't queried the entire Russian lexicon or even a scientifically measured portion of it (e.g., the first 100 most common Russian adjectives and nouns and all the many permutations of how they could combine with "2," "3," and "4"). It could be done, but it would take me a lot of time and I suspect that I would discover what the Russian textbook ТРОЙКА has already provided me with its rule.

  2. In the thread titled, "How to decline adjectives ..." (the one I mention earlier in this answer), the author of it (KCd) refers to the number-adjective-noun rules for feminine nouns. To refresh, it is this:

Interestingly enough, although the stress from nominative plural to genitive plural does not change, both words (сторона and война) have a change of stress between singular and plural. Is it possible that the source KCd refers to is actually referring to stress changes between the singular and plural forms of the word? I suppose it is possible, but doubtful. I get the impression КСd is quoting from it directly. The source isn't mentioned, so I can't try to find a copy online. (Even if it exists, it could very well be in Russian, not a bad thing, but my Russian is not nearly good enough for accurate interpretation of Russian grammar books.) I'll ask about it after posting this.

  1. The general rules laid out at the top of the post that starts my thread here (Can anyone clear up ...?) should suffice in most situations. How do I know that? I don't. All I can tell you is that I've seen that rule in a pretty reputable Russian textbook and have seen several examples of where that rule is applied. Those that don't follow those rules appear to be the exception rather than the rule, but I haven't queried the entire Russian lexicon or even a scientifically measured portion of it (e.g., the first 100 most common Russian adjectives and nouns and all the many permutations of how they could combine with "2," "3," and "4"). It could be done, but it would take me a lot of time and I suspect that I would discover what the Russian textbook ТРОЙКА has already provided me with its rule.

  2. In the thread titled, "How to decline adjectives ..." (the one I mention earlier in this answer), the author of it (KCd) refers to the number-adjective-noun rules for feminine nouns. To refresh, it is this:

Interestingly enough, although the stress from nominative plural to genitive plural does not change, both words (сторона and война) have a change of stress between singular and plural. Is it possible that the source KCd refers to is actually referring to stress changes between the singular and plural forms of the word? I suppose it is possible, but doubtful. I get the impression КСd may actually be quoting from it directly. The source isn't mentioned, so I can't try to find a copy online. (Even if it exists, it could very well be in Russian, not a bad thing, but my Russian is not nearly good enough for accurate interpretation of Russian grammar books.) I'll ask about it after posting this.

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