There may be two forms of the word, the mythical creature and the Internet "troll" who spreads anger and discord through anonymous online forums. I am interested in the second form of the word, though the first form might be interesting, too.
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This word is borrowed directly from English and it's actually "тролль" or "троль" (pronounced almost like English trol
but l is softer). It's quite common word in Internet slang and there is also a verb derived from it - троллить
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Also, жирный тролль
(zhirnyj trol`, literally a fat troll) - about somebody who is, well, let's put it this way, a dedicated, passionate troll.
As of palatalization (the way final "l" is pronounced softer) it's not easy to pronounce for someone who is a native speaker of a language where there's no such thing. But you can try to pronounce trollee
and than try to pronounce ee
very quickly, as quickly as possible. And then even shorter :)
A sidenote - "original" troll is also тролль
in Russian (since its a Scandinavian word both in Russian and English) but actually there's a theory that English trolling was initially based on the concept of trolling - a fishing technique, and only later this word became associated with mythological creature. More about it.
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7fat troll is not necessarily a passionate and dedicated troll. fat implies that the troll is willing to use even the most crude and obvious ways of trolling, sometimes all the way down to direct swearing/name calling/etc. in contrast, "тонкий" (literally—"thin") troll tries to make the act of trolling implicit and smart, often to avoid being detected as a troll but still deliver hard feelings to the target of trolling. Usually experienced trolls can do it in both ways, but doing it "thin" requires more experience and cleverness. Dec 20, 2016 at 7:41
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2I think the pronouncation of the
л
with and without the "мягкий знак" can roughly be explained as follows: Without theь
, anл
is pronounced with the "base vocal"o
: Like pronouncing ano
, but with the tounge touching the palate. With theь
, anл
is pronounced with the "base vocal"ee
: Like anee
, but with the tounge touching the palate. (I'm not a native russian speaker, so if this is entirely wrong, drop me a note, and I'll delete this comment)– Marco13Dec 20, 2016 at 13:01 -
@Marco13 no worries, as in my opinion, this is a very helpful explanation.– shabunc ♦Dec 20, 2016 at 16:12
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1@VCH250 it depends on the social group but it's same to assume that people in 20-mid 40s know it pretty well.– shabunc ♦Dec 21, 2016 at 19:36