Would it be "Innusha or Innushka?

On one hand, the diminutive of Katya is Katyusha. I am writing a poem to the tune of that song, likening her to the "rocket launchers" of the same name that won World War II for Russia.

On the other hand, I see words like korobushka.

When do you have diminutives with or without the "k?"

  • Иннусик, Нусик, Инчик!
    – shabunc
    Jan 7 '19 at 11:13
  • @shabunc: Those sound "masculine." Don't women's names usually end with "a?"
    – Tom Au
    Jan 7 '19 at 11:43
  • it's all indeed legit, Натусик, Ольчик, Cветик, Людок, Нинок, names do end with -а/я but these are suffixes on top of the names Jan 7 '19 at 11:51
  • @TomAu nope, it would be oversimplification
    – shabunc
    Jan 7 '19 at 14:56
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    Be careful. You can't say for sure the lady likes all that. Нусик can be really annoying.
    – Elena
    Jan 7 '19 at 18:55

I've never heard Иннуша, but it sounds totally natural to me and i wouldn't bat an eyelid hearing it for the first time

When do you have diminutives with or without the "k?"

The stressed suffix -уша/юша/иша i'd call endearing rather than diminutive. Diminutive more often than not would be words having stressed -ушка/юшка/ишка suffix.

I. So for Катя endearing form is Катюша, but diminutive is КатюшКа
Валя - ВалЮша - ВалЮшка
Ваня - ВанЮша - ВанЮшка
Андрей - АндрЮша - АндрЮшка
Ира - ИрИша - ИрИшка
Марина - МарИша - МарИшка

II. However words suffixed with -ушка/юшка in which stress falls not on the suffix but on the immediately preceding syllable do have endearing connotation and not diminutive, e.g. бАтюшка, мАтушка, бАбушка, дЕдушка, тётушка, дЯдюшка, дЕвушка, сосЕдушка, Иннушка, Аннушка, Олюшка, Марьюшка, Глебушка, солОвушка, корОбушка, пОлюшко, нЕбушко, вОлюшка, голОвушка, зИмушка, сИлушка, also сОлнушко (dialectal variant of сОлнышко).

Shift in the stress within the words of the 1st group makes them also have endearing rather than diminutive connotation, e.g.

ВанЮшкаdimin vs ВАнюшкаendear
АндрЮшкаdimin vs АндрЕюшкаendear
КатЮшкаdimin vs КАтюшкаendear

The suffix-stress pattern in which the stress immediately precedes the suffix, as in the words of the 2nd group, seems to not be productive any longer, it's a marker of antiquated language.

To me it's obvious that the applicability of these suffixes depends on the morphology of the base word, but it's not easy to pin down and systematize their determinative morphological features.

Существительные с ударным суффиксом -ушк(а) могут иметь уменьшительно-уничижительное значение: комнатушка, избушка, кладовушка, пивнушка. Слова этого типа относятся к женскому роду, в том числе и мотивированные словами мужского рода: зверь – зверюшка, амбар – амбарушка, сараюшка. Тип продуктивный.

От этого типа следует отличать существительные с безударным суффиксом -ушк(а)/-юшк(а), -ушк(о) / -юшк(о), посредством которого образуются существительные со значением ласкательности: дедушка, дядюшка, вдовушка, женушка, зимушка; горюшко, морюшко, полюшко; pluralia tantum детушки, козлятушки. Сюда же относится суффикс -ушек: воробушек, соловушек (вариант соловушка), камушек, хлебушек (вариант хлебушко).

Source: ZDROBNĚLINY V RUŠTINĚ (Уменшительно-ласкательные суффиксы в русском языке) by Josefína Marchevková, p. 28
Тж. "Суффиксы субъективной оценки в русском языке и в русской разговорной речи" by Оути Пухакка, pp. 18, 19
Русская грамматика §§ 420, 421

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    Наша радость была бы неполной... ) I think, we should add -очка, -ечка for Танечка, Ванечка, Леночка, Ирочка, Инночка, Анечка, Юрочка, Димочка, Вовочка, and -енька for Катенька, Оленька, Петенька, Алёшенька, Серёженька, Володенька.
    – Elena
    Jan 7 '19 at 10:22
  • i only focused here on specific suffix mentioned in the question because it's impossible to encompass the unencompassable Jan 7 '19 at 10:24
  • But really the most frequient are the variants with -чка and -енька, than all the rest.
    – Elena
    Jan 7 '19 at 10:32
  • not sure what the argument here is Jan 7 '19 at 10:33
  • It is seen from the heading of the question, that the author just needed a correct diminutive for a name. Correct is a variant which will be recognized and accepted by the name-holder.
    – Elena
    Jan 7 '19 at 10:36

Инночка. Innochka. Иннушка is also possible.

Btw, to ask a person how to change their name correctly is a win-win strategy. )))))

  • I am writing a poem to her, likening her to the song "Katyusha," and the "rocket launchers" of the same name that won World War II for Russia. That's the context of the question.
    – Tom Au
    Jan 7 '19 at 19:11
  • A really flattering comparison. ))))) But it reminds me of youtube.com/watch?v=R8L64j_xvJE And... do you think it was katyusha that won the War? I'm never tired to be surprised at ideas about that, but it's another matter.
    – Elena
    Jan 7 '19 at 19:16
  • IMHO, one or both of two "Katyushas" won Russia the war. n the original song, Katyusha waits for, and inspires her soldier boy, kind of like Germany's Lili Marlene. In my version, the "Katyusha," (actually Innusha) rocket launcher follows behind her Russian infantry, and fires on the same targets as the soldiers do.
    – Tom Au
    Jan 7 '19 at 20:26
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    @Tom In case of a song/poem I'd srtongly suggest to not use "Innusha" of course. For a non-native speaker it may sound like Katyusha but in fact personally when I saw your question I first thought of words like "копуша", "горбуша" etc. Very awkward. For the song I'd go with Иннушка (Инночка is a bit more childish) though as I understand this will probably make you to start from scratch due to the different stress point. Jan 7 '19 at 23:18
  • @seven-phases-max: Why don't you turn your excellent comment into an answer that I would probably upvote and possibly accept.
    – Tom Au
    Jan 7 '19 at 23:22

If it's suitable for your poem variant "Иннуся" is possible. I guess this variant may also be suitable for the song's tune. BTW ladies with this name are mostly Ok about this kind diminutive but it's personal.

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    Just recalled from my memory one more variant - "Иннуля" is also widely used. Jan 11 '19 at 8:18

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