Она меня постоянно задирает.
Она меня постоянно достает.
In conversation, I use "задирать" or "доставать" with the meaning of "сильно раздражать". I'm wondering how they compare with one another in terms of nuance, usage, and register?
asked Jan 18, 2019 at 17:31
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Dictionaries are extremely helpful. I would try finding one you like. There's also Reverso. Almost all the questions you ask could be answered in a few seconds. доставать—разг. (приставать к кому-л, раздражать кого-л) get (at); pester (d); annoy (d); get smb's goat sl задирать— (кого-л.; дразнить) pick (on), bully (d.)– VCH250Jan 19, 2019 at 19:19
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3@VCH250 You seem to be quite fond of dictionaries, I see, but language learning isn't as simple as that -- going through dictionaries and voilà your knowing everything just like that. Sure, if you are content with a superficial understanding, definitions in dictionaries will suffice. However, if you hope to reach the level of native speakers, hardly so. Haven't I already mentioned this before, but the answers given by native speakers here are hardly what you can find in dictionaries. And as for Reverso, I don't recommend relying on it too much outside of getting a broad understanding.– Con-gras-tue-les-chiensJan 19, 2019 at 22:01
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1@VCH250 Just to illustrate the point, the definition "приставать к кому-л" that you listed for "доставать" also holds true for "задирать". Which goes to show that the distinction isn't as clear-cut as you make it out to be, I'm afraid.– Con-gras-tue-les-chiensJan 19, 2019 at 22:20
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In conversation, I use "задирать" or "доставать" with the meaning of "сильно раздражать". I'm wondering how they compare with one another in terms of nuance, usage, and register?
With this meaning, there is a difference between these verbs in the imperfective form: "Задирать" is to provoke a conflict, a physical fight, or a verbal fight, while ''доставать'' is merely to annoy with persistent action, to get to, often with a purpose of making the victim change his course of actions.
A classical situation of ''задирать'': One schoolboy bullies another one and challenges him to a fist fight, simply willing to test the fists and get some adrenaline. A classical situation of ''доставать'': A wife constantly reminds her husband that he earns not enough money, trying to make him change his job for a better one.
A persistent mosquito or a fly can доставать, but cannot задирать.
Задиристый person is someone aggressive, verbally or physically. Доставучий person is just someone persistent in his annoying actions.
In the perfective form, however, these verbs are equivalent: ''Задрал уже'' = ''Достал уже'' = ''You have got to me.'' However, ''задрал'' is used rarely as compared to ''достал''.
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seeing задрал it's occurred to me that it might be derived from задирать which in the past seem to have never been used in perfective aspect, i've usually attributed it to euphemistic заебать Jan 18, 2019 at 19:26
доставать is either to bug with smth, to rag on, incessant requests, questions or addresses, if done on purpose, or to annoy if causing nuisance unintentionally and unwittingly, a synonym of действовать на нервы, this verb can accept complement in Instrumental, that is доставать чем-то or с чем-то which is rarer
задирать is to tease, to banter as already said, but also to try to pick a fight, to badger, to yank one's chain if done with malicious intent, whose synonym is задираться к typical to children vocabulary in the past, don't think it's still common, this one is used without complement to denote means whereby the act is done
задирать is perceived as significantly older, доставать is pretty recent, i've started hearing it a lot since end of the 80s beginning of the 90s
the adverb постоянно signals that act or its effect are deliberate
answered Jan 18, 2019 at 19:07
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So is the sense of annoyance not necessarily an integral part of the meaning of these verbs? Jan 18, 2019 at 19:36
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@Con-gras-tue-les-chiens only that of доставать in specific usages Jan 18, 2019 at 19:53
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I thought "достать" could also have the meaning of "piss off" or "drive crazy". I have the famous video game "Neighbors from Hell" in mind here which in Russian is trandlated as "как достать соседа." This title might be translated as "How to drive your neighbor crazy" Feb 4, 2019 at 2:46
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They mean the same only in the forms задрал and достал, that is perfective past. Both are colloquial, and достал is softer, if it is possible to be softer here.
In the present form задирает or any other imperfective forms this verb means teasing.
Достаёт in its indirect meaning is "сильно раздражает, старается вывести из себя". Literally it is 'keeps trying to get you out of yourself'.
Задирать - trying to provoke aggressive response. Доставать - to annoy
