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Abstracting from the fact that it is usually pronounced as in English, how /etc (https://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/etc-fs.html) should be pronounced in Russian? I was under the impression that, as it transliterates to /етц, it should be pronounced as "ye te tse". That is the way Mr. Дмитрий Молчанов pronounced it in "Администрирование Linux. Лекция 4" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dFxopSVe5Y) at around 18:16 and Mr. Anton Pavlenko in "Структура каталогов Linux и монтирование дисков. Как продлить жизнь SSD." (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7iKs5xiujM) at around 10:45.

However, according to my Russian colleagues, also IT specialists, it transliterates to /этц and should be pronounced as "e te tse".

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  • You can use both versions I think – user12350 Aug 1 '19 at 12:58
  • Please make your answer more informative by adding details. – Aer Aug 1 '19 at 15:28
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    I pronounce it the English way, и-ти-си. – Anixx Aug 2 '19 at 10:14
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    I've never heard the individual letters pronounced in English. Among moderately old timers (i.e., those who were teaching Unix classes at the university level in the US in the '90s), it's pronounced as a single word, etsy. – StackOverthrow Aug 2 '19 at 16:25
  • It seems like a matter of personal preference. I once had a colleague who would literally translate /etc as /итд and /home as /дом and say it like that. – Galaxy Aug 6 '19 at 19:49
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People who tend to use 'Latin' pronunciation in abbreviations (and it is a very common practice) would say "ye te tse".

Just like they say "ye dva ye chetyre" (E2-E4) to describe one of the favorite first moves in the Chess. Not ""e dva e chetyre".

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  • "Latin" pronunciation would be "et cetera" (эт цэтэра)[A better spelling would be "config" but even Apple calls it non-specific "System"] – jfs Aug 2 '19 at 18:51
  • Yes, I know. I put the Latin in quotes because it's not the real Latin. Not so many people study Latin nowadays and know the correct names of Latin characters but everyone who studied mathematics, physics, and chemistry in a Soviet or Russian school is used use the French names for the most of Latin characters like 'zhe' for 'g', 'ash' for 'h', '[d]zhi' for 'j', 'igrek' for 'y' and so long. Needless to say that those who didn't study French sincerely think that these names are original Latin ones :) – VaNdal Aug 2 '19 at 21:52
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I have never heard from a single IT person to call it "e te tse". You can of course use both options. But all my IT colleagues call it "ye te tse", since the first letter in /etc E is mostly similar to Russian E (pronounced "ye").

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    Latin letter e is also called "ye", not because of Russian but because it is called so in Latin language. – Anixx Aug 2 '19 at 10:11
  • @Anixx Oh, that's good to know – RadioLog Aug 2 '19 at 10:54
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    @Anixx One of the multiple examples where it is stated [e] : la.raycui.com/alphabet.html – RadioLog Aug 2 '19 at 11:42
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    Ok, got it. Because I got confused when you said that it is called like that in Latin alphabet – RadioLog Aug 2 '19 at 11:45
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    Well, e is just call [e] in German, not [ye] ... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_orthography#Alphabet – René Aug 2 '19 at 11:49
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It trully depends on the person. Some say "ye te tse", some say "e te tse".

That is because the latin "e" usually translates phonetically to э, as in the latin alphabet "ye" does not occur as a letter on its own. From a strictly linguistic point of view, it should be "e te tse".

However, it is like with the word router. Some say "rooter" some say "rauter", even though the root word "route" is closer to "root" than to "raut".

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    Just a note: many (most?) American speakers use the pronunciation "raut" for "route"; and depending on the sources you learn from, American or British English (or another variety) might have a greater or lesser influence. – Buster Aug 1 '19 at 20:29
  • as an uninitiated person i would definitely spell it as э-тэ-цэ – Баян Купи-ка Aug 1 '19 at 21:27
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    Another reason why етэце is preferred over этэце is its recognisability within a phrase (as /etc is not normally said on its own): "Лёха, где в линухе модемные конфиги?" - "Глянь в етэце". "В этэцэ" would sound odd, pretty much like ВТЦ (WTC). – tum_ Aug 2 '19 at 8:33
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I consider /etc is coming from etc from Latin language so it's pronounced like ет cетера see https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

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  • This is also how I say it in English but I am apparently one of very few people to do so. – Michael Hampton Aug 2 '19 at 17:35
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    Many of my colleagues know the derivation of this abbreviation and though many of them would say "et [t]setera" while reading out loud some written text no one would pronounce the directory name in this way. Either "i-ti-si" in English manner or "ye-te-tse" in Latin manner (a poor school Latin-French manner I mean). – VaNdal Aug 2 '19 at 19:02
  • @VaNdal on the other hand I personally have always called it 'ет cетера' and I have never heard someone to call it something other. Was very surprised to learn that some people call it "ye-te-tse". Like "сесурити" – Dmitry Koroliov Aug 4 '19 at 23:08
  • @user907860 Could well be. We live in a great big world :) – VaNdal Aug 5 '19 at 7:47
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Unlike other people, who say out sounds of the letters as they are, "ye te tse",

I say it all like one word, эцъ "et's", kind of like "it's" but with an e.

This is similar to saying NASA as "nassa", you don't say "en ay es ay".

/etc is a `thing', it is not made up of three discrete components, it is one whole thing in itself, it's a directory. Why in world would you use three syllables when you need only one!?

It seems like a matter of personal preference. I once had a colleague who would literally translate /etc as /итд and /home as /дом and say it like that.

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    Because the only reason for me to say the name of this directory out loud is to answer on someone's question. Like 'Where are these files stored?' 'In /etc directory'. And if I answer with something different from 'ye te tse' or 'i ti si' (like 'et [t]setera' or 'et's') I have to answer again because most probably I would be misunderstood. – VaNdal Aug 3 '19 at 9:45
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The name of the folder is coming from latin Et cetera (произн. [эт цэтэра]

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_cetera

So I pronounce it ЭТЦ or ИТиСи, not ЕТЦ

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