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Can a propositional phrase, rather than a single word, precede ли (“whether”)? For example, can I say “Он знает, у неё ли билет”. I saw that ли is supposed to be the second word in its clause, but can it be the second “logical unit” even though that makes it technically the third word?

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In other words, the normal usage is

“Он знает, [first word] ли [other words]

Can I say instead

“Он знает, [first word] [second word] ли [other words]

specifically where [first word] [second word] is a single phrase like у неё ?

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Yes, as far as the ли positioning rule is concerned, "у неё" counts as a single unit.

Your sentence as it is doesn't make much sense ("He knows whether she has the ticket"). It would make more sense if you added не:

  • Он не знает, у неё ли билет.
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  • Thanks! Yes, was trying to make a very simple example.
    – MPW
    Commented May 21 at 14:43
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    +1, but what's wrong with он знает, у неё ли билет?
    – Quassnoi
    Commented May 21 at 15:54
  • @Quassnoi, Making it a question works too. The original sentence was a statement "Он знает, у неё ли билет." which didn't make sense to me. Commented May 21 at 17:09
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    @SergeySlepov: I don't know, it makes perfect sense to me. From the corpus: Авдотья Лукьяновна, полагаю, знает лучше всех, её ли я сын или Настасьи Федоровны; Якубович сам знает, обижена ли его честь etc.
    – Quassnoi
    Commented May 21 at 18:47

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