Do I need a comma here before the second "да"?

Да и среди нас нет-нет да найдутся неверующие в акцидентное пресуществление.

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I think you do not need it. First source I found is from gramota.ru. It says that it is an unbroken expression and provides a couple examples.

Rozental's reference §96 (point 1, note в) states the same. However, both of the sources require you to have a да и, not just да in there.

I don't think I ever heard this expression without the и, but I also can't say it's mandatory. Maybe someone else can comment or edit me about the requirement of the и.

  • it is much rarer, but nevertheless valid and existent. For example > Кабы вот не эта красная вывеска напротив, откуда нет-нет да вдруг слабо доносятся какие-то гудящие звуки
    – shabunc
    Commented Jul 25, 2012 at 11:54
  • @shabunc: I think the reason there is no и in your example is that the following verb is imperfective. So putting an и there would be just wrong. In case of the OP's example, the verb is perfective so one really wants an и there, although I, too, can't say that its omission is wrong, maybe simply unusual Commented Jul 26, 2012 at 9:27
  • @ArmenTsirunyan - I could as well change the verb from perfective to imperfective in my example (найдутся -> наxодятся) and it would still sound ok to me. To me they all sound ok - regardless of the verb aspect or the presence of "и"
    – brilliant
    Commented Jul 26, 2012 at 10:26

запятая не ставится:

  • перед сочетанием да и, имеющим соединительное значение (думал да и надумал)
  • в выражении нет-нет да и
  • в сочетании глаголов типа взял да и приехал.

here is the link

so you actually don't need comma here.

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