Timeline for Use of dative with быть
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| Nov 23 at 3:13 | comment | added | άνθρωπος | @pompey1969 i understand your doubts, so, i think, i have to look all the circle of the 7 verses that named "To Pushkin", that are more about Pushkin and this verse is the last, it is most unclear because based on previous ones, probably. | |
| Nov 23 at 2:03 | comment | added | pompey1969 | But this explanation has two flaws. 1) you are assuming тренья means a whole clause of your invention. 2) народоправству is in the dative. Your explanation wouldn't require the dative. Quassnoi's explanation does justify the dative - народоправству не поручать. My explanation is that тренья governs народоправству - dissension towards people power. But I think it might need to be тренья к in that case? It seems clear that no interpretation is perfect. Maybe an opaque line needs to be translated opaquely - which is why Shambat came up with a difficult-to-understand translation? | |
| Nov 22 at 15:06 | comment | added | άνθρωπος | And also 'magic of the spelling' is in rhymes: трон - похорон (the throne will be their tomb), тренья - погребенья ( the discord of frictions will bury them) - something like this) so it has several layers of the same understanding. | |
| Nov 22 at 14:50 | comment | added | άνθρωπος | Also i think about this reference from her verse to Pushkin's "Oda of freewill": "Самовластительный Злодей! Тебя, твой трон я ненавижу, Твою погибель, смерть детей С жестокой радостию вижу. Читают на твоем челе Печать проклятия народы, Ты ужас мира, стыд природы, Упрек ты богу на земле." | |
| Nov 22 at 14:50 | comment | added | άνθρωπος | @Bruno usually dash replaces some word or phrase that the reader has to guess out or already knows it from the analogue said before. It can be the same phrase, or synonym or similar metaphor based on text difficult. In general sense dash need to switch view focus to something else. It is like she put a spell that народоправство is an usurpation(forgot this word xD) of the power to right and rule, like Pushkin wrote "самовластительный злодей" but usurpers unable to take the power belong to God's(Nature's) laws or something like this, it is some kind of mystics | |
| Nov 22 at 12:16 | comment | added | Bruno | "So the dash mean same word - do not let/trust(~entrust) to executors their victims burying." Yes, I had no issue with the second dash; in my grammar they give this example: "Я бросила к двери, она - к окну."; I think it is the same case here. The use of the first dash and your explanation ("about first one dash трение ~ friction - it is a physical law") are unclear to me, but I think very interesting your interpretation for трение (you made me realize that it is the word used in physics). | |
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| Nov 22 at 9:05 | history | answered | άνθρωπος | CC BY-SA 4.0 |