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Jun 18, 2016 at 8:41 comment added demonplus @KCd After reading this thread I remembered one story with my own son (native Russian speaker) when he was 7 and knew how to add/subtract numbers but didn't know how to multiply them properly yet. He heard phrases like 'семью восемь равно 56' and thought that multiplication sign is always called 'ю' ! This was really funny, he said 'один ю два равно два'! So multiplication can be difficult even for native speakers :)
Apr 22, 2015 at 7:26 comment added Nikolay Ershov @KCd I don't think there's a clear answer to be given here, because the established way to verbalise multiplication was, until recently, the one brought up by Anton Maximov: дважды, трижды, четырежды and past that, the instrumental — пятью, шестью, etc. As far as I'm aware it's on the decline now, replaced by [умножить] на, which adds the inconvenience of ambiguity with division, but I think it's too early to talk about any formalised rules to get around that.
Apr 22, 2015 at 6:17 comment added KCd A 7-year old should realize it? That's the person I was directing the question to, so the parent's correction made me suspect that simplifying to на was perhaps not "child-speak" for math yet. This was the point of my question. I'm wondering not what most people will think but when do children start to use на instead of умножить на?
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