I'm having a very hard time understanding this pronunciation. Is it safe to assume that ый sounds like ey in hey ?
Take the word сильный for instance, the pronunciation on forvo is slightly different than the one on wiktionary, which one is correct?
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2Wiktionary uses speech engine and at forvo you listen to live humans. Forvo's records sound more natural.– AlexVBCommented Nov 29, 2017 at 21:56
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@AlexVB are you sure? It doesn't sound robotic at all– TreyCommented Nov 29, 2017 at 22:24
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The way it pronounce "ый" made me think this. But now I think I was wrong. There are articles which have a transcription, but don't have a sound sample.– AlexVBCommented Dec 1, 2017 at 13:59
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Wiktionary's audio has a weird noise at the end. Forvo pronunciations are cleaner and sound more natural.– OlgaCommented Dec 1, 2017 at 15:49
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All three of forvo are correct, while Wiktionary sounds as сильний.
Hey does not sound to me as a safe replacement of ый. As far as I know, the sound Ы does not exist in English. Have a look at this nice lesson: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sB61Fi1LluY
answered Nov 29, 2017 at 21:57
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1That's what I thought, it's very similar to сильний indeed, thank you!– TreyCommented Nov 29, 2017 at 22:08
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Only the last phoneme in -ый is similar to ey in hey, but not the entire syllable.
I'm not entirely clear what part of the syllable is a problem.
The divergence may be due to difference in expression of different speakers, without proper effort in articulation (like in fluent speech) it may sound as just -ы without -й, which at this position is very short anyway (not without a reason the letter is named "short И"), getting reduced because the word stress is far removed from it.
I didn't notice it being pronounced as -ий in the clips.
The word contains both vowels сИльнЫй and in the Wiktionary clip difference in their pronunciation is apparent. И softens consonants which precede it (save for Ц/Ж/Ш, which in combination ЦИ/ЖИ/ШИ are pronounced as ЦЫ/ЖЫ/ШЫ) whereas in the clip Н before -ый isn't softened, which would be the case had the ending been pronounced as -ий.
If you're trying to understand how ы is to be properly pronounced, i'd suggest taking notice of how English duh interjection is pronounced, because its vowel is quite close.
answered Nov 29, 2017 at 21:58
